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PostSubject: Tantive IV   Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:35 pm

Anyone up for designing a rough draft of the layout?.I think we should start pre productionv of some maps so we can.start building quickly when people have time.
Would be a good test case for infantry only gameplay. It's easy to block out and build, too.
I'd be interested in building this because I'm a bit fatigued with characters right now and need something in-between. But we'll see when the time comes.
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:07 pm

Yea its not quite complicated to model this map in general. The thing is the layout.

For start we should keep some order of things like in the cross-sections and the movie and change things where gameplay wise don't work.
I think this is how battlefront's map is made. It's quite different but it got things in order like the bridge, the engines , the escape pod and etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:08 pm

Yea.
I checked the schematics (which sadly don't include the interior) and it seems the SEBF2 map is way too small to include the bridge AND the engine room. We can extend the map a bit but not too much, otherwise it'll become a maze.
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:27 pm

Are you looking at this or another schematics?It's not full but we can get something.

The SWBF2 map is quite big actually but yes it's a big maze.

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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:34 am

My ref was another one, from another book (maybe Star Wars Blueprints) and it was larger than this, or maybe it just looked larger....

Anyways, this is nice, is it possible to get a bigger version? Which book is that from?
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:51 am

Yes, this is probably 70% from the real image. It's Star Wars - Incredible Cross-Section book. I got it all on .pdf
I may try do like mine layout based on it but i got too much things to do lately.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nhxjix198vljo7r/DK%20Publishing%20-%20Star%20Wars%20-%20Incredible%20Cross-Sections.pdf
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:03 am

Thanks, Stew! Wink

I'll maybe get a rough one up tonight or so.
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:05 am

Yeah I have that book too. Sharky beat me to it. I would like to include the whole ship actually. it would be cool to have a maze like map.
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:28 am

For a fun match maybe, not for standard gameplay. We can just block out the whole ship and see how that feels. Then go from that.
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:59 am

Tantive IV ? Nice. If you need concepts, tell me Very Happy .
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:35 am

I/we need layout suggestions, there's enough reference from the movies for the rest.
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:27 am

Ok, i'll focus on the other things i have to do then.
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:08 am

I want a third level but have other things to do atm. I expect this to be fully scribbled on and modified so go for it. this i just a base detailing the main corridors, stairs, and outer walls. none of the internal walls.

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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:02 am

Oh I'm sure Josh and I will go crazy over this... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:09 pm


We should keep it roughly in the proportions of the ship (just so we can theoretically use the hull with the interior if wanted/needed).

The lower level is where Leia is (in those dark, circular tunnels). I believe the escape pods are there, too.
It seems the airlock and the corridors where the stormies enter are on the upper deck. The bridge is on the upper deck, too.
I'm not sure about the table-room and the room where Vader chokes Antilles (with those circular doors).

I assume the airlock corridors at the cross-section just in front of the engines are mirrored.

For moving between decks there seem to be at least 2 elevators (Forward elevator at the bridge and Mid-ship elevator next to the briefing (table) room), there could be one where the Primary sensor array is. I'm not sure if those darker areas are stairs or elevators, Joseph, but I think we should add some stairs (if we do a second deck) just to move the focus away from the elevators.

And lastly, in my opinion the layout shouldn't be 100% symmetrical, make it a bit more interesting. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:45 am

Ohh, the other way round!
Then the corridors are only like 1 m wide though. The corridor you have going to the bridge would be ~2/3 m wide judging from other refs. I think we need to extend it a bit towards the back of the ship.
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:51 am

I am not fan of symmetrical maps also but sometimes they work if they are big enough.

If we get all technical all the circular corridors with those pipes,escape pods and where Darth Vader chokes that guy are all on the lower level.
The table room and all those fancy corridors are on the main lever and the crew quarters are on the top and also on the main level.

I was thinking maybe because the deck is kinda far from the rest there might be 2 main corridors going there with several smaller ones connecting them or going over or beneath them.The bridge will be like the last stand and the hardest to capture by the imperials just like it will really hard to capture any of these airlocks where the stormies come from(well not so impossible as that but you get the idea).

And yes, all i see is but stairs. That doesn't stop us from using stairs instead elevators. Also these corridors look kinda tight like Ben said.
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:50 am

Its not exactly symettrical though. One team will have the bridge and the others will come from both airlocks.
So while the ship is symmetrical if split lengthwise, the teams wont be.

In the film the corridors look like about 1.7-2m wide.
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:09 am

Of course, but we all meant the symmetry of the ship itself. It looks to me like the schematics aren't 100% symmetrical either, but it's hard to make out with all the stuff going on.
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Thu May 23, 2013 9:40 pm

Hello everyone ! Alexis here, working on Tantive IV for a couple of weeks now.
I struggled with the level design for a while, I'm quite unsatisfied with the one from Battlefront 2 (doesn't match the "real" Tantive IV) and the one on this topic is maybe too complicated.

I designed this layout to work on :
(Green layout is the cargo hold, red level is the main upper floor, green squares are stairs/access ramps/elevator)



The design sticks much more to the original design, and we can play with the different parts of the ships to break the monotony of the Tantive depicted in the movies (blank white corridors). Now we would have the engines room, the commander room, the cockpit, the cargo hold...
It's designed to be on two floors as you can see.

You may have noticed a serious problem in this design though : there is two main corridors, who can lead to never-ending fights between the two sides, like on Metro in Battlefield 3 (look at numbers 1 & 2 in the image).


So, yesterday I thought of something to tear appart this problem ! Why not crash the tantive on some asteroid ?
It's a pretty simple idea : we tilt the level a bit, burry the cockpit, and make two or three holes in the right side of the ship who leads to the planet's ground.



The cargo hold would be totally messed up with containers everywhere, cables hanging from the ceiling... and as I said the holes in the right side of the ship would lead directly onto the planet's ground (3).
(4) would be a drop pod or something to climb on and provide some cover in this open area.

And now for the twist : we could actually close the holes in the right side of the ship with some destructible walls ? People are begging all around internet about destructible environment in Battlefront 3, we can offer them USEFULL destructible environments, who hides some parts of the maps !

Imagine the thrill when someone understand for the first time that they can break the doors and walk on the asteroid Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Fri May 24, 2013 2:26 pm

I love your design Praglik! Great job. Smile But I thought that the Tantive IV was above Tatooine which doesn't really have any asteroids in sight, during the movies. I mean it sounds like a fun and good idea but it just doesn't match the canon. Actually look what I found here from Wookiepedia:

Unable to find the plans on board the Tantive IV, Darth Vader ordered a team of stormtroopers to sweep the planet below to find them. Afterward, the corvette was destroyed and the entire crew was killed. Imperial propaganda, including a falsified report by the survey vessel Wide-Eyed, would later proclaim that an asteroid storm caused the destruction of the Tantive IV.

Soooo maybe it could be called crashed Tantive IV or something on one of Tatooine's moons or even Tatooine itself. The other option would be to just have the rooms towards the engines exploded, and have more room back there. Tatooine's moons are called Ghomrassen, Guermessa, and Chenini.
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Fri May 24, 2013 11:35 pm

I took a look about Tatooine's moons, the last one is very interesting : http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chenini

"The erratic appearance and disappearance of this celestial body led to many superstitions (...)"
I think it means that we would be pretty free during the design process...
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Sat May 25, 2013 11:52 am

Yes.
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PostSubject: Re: Tantive IV   Sat May 25, 2013 11:53 pm

I really like your idea, it would make the map way more interesting and add some originality to it. I would love to do concept of it if only i had the time and also the experience for it. Good luck. Maybe each map should have it's own category on the forum to keep us updated? One for Hoth and one for Tantive IV ?
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